Axis deactivated guns for sale in the uk - We undertake deactivation and firearm repair work in our custom built and well equiped workshop. We buy and sell. [Archive] 1909 Argentine mauser carbine CMP Bolt Action Rifles. I just picked up a 1909 Argentine mauser carbine and was wondering if anyone knew of a source for some good info on these guns. Seems info is a bit vaque on the carbine. My stock has matching serial number on it also.

7.65 x 53mm Rifling & Twist.. 4 Groove, Right Hand Twist Barrel Length.. (740mm) Overall Length.. (1250mm) Weight... (4.17kg) Magazine Capacity. 5 rounds (staggered column box) Qty Mfg...

160,000 (1909-1912) Source. Argentine Mauser Rifles 1871-1959 by Colin Webster - ISBN: Canadian Market Value Estimate: $ 1909 Argentine Infantry Rifle (103 picture virtual tour) Observations: In the mid 1880’s the Argentine army was using the Remington Rolling Block Rifle, after which they switched to the Model 1891 Mauser and finally, the Model 1909.

The 1909 Argentine Mauser was manufactured under contract by DWM in Germany for the Argentine government. It was also later produced in Agentine factories and it's built on the large ring Mauser 98 style action. It was made in 4 versions, the 1909 Rifle, the 1909 sniper, 1909 Cavalry, and the 1909 Mountain Carbine, each of the last three in limited numbers.

The earlier model 1891 rifle made by DWM or Lowe of Germany, was small ring Mauser almost identical to turk 1890. On the model 1909, besides the larger ring for strength, the extractors were improved, as well as improving the gas porting and adding a third safety lug on the bolt. Collector's Comments and Feedback: 1. Originally published in Guns & Ammo Magazine. To many collectors, this superbly made bolt-action military rifle represents the crown jewel of all Model 98 variants.

By modern standards the Model 1909 classifies as somewhat unwieldy, thanks to its 29-inch barrel. I can't recall the exact date in the mid-1950s, but I can remember what happened like it was last week. There, on a table at an Ohio gun show, was this beautiful rifle. It talked to me, and I listened despite my father's warning that there was no sense in buying some 'foreign' rifle that shot ammo no one could get.

But who ever said gun deals have to make sense? At the time I had no clue that there was any difference in status between that pristine Model 1909 Argentine Mauser still in cosmoline and any other garden-variety surplus rifle. Yes, I knew what Mausers were, but I couldn't have discussed the differences among them. All I knew was that I wanted that rifle and was willing to put down the 40 silver dollars it took to walk away with it. I used silver dollars for all gun purchases during that era, and 40 of them was a healthy price for a surplus Mauser. In fact, it was more than the rifle was probably worth on the market at that time, but the Mauser was in considerably better condition than most surplus rifles available during those years. Fortunately, the purchase also included a bag of corrosive military ammo.

About half of the cartridges failed to fire despite fairly deep firing-pin indentations on the primer. But somehow that didn't really matter. The rifle shot well, looked great and functioned like a Swiss watch.

Although I've shot the 1909 Argentine extensively through the years, it's been used for nothing more exotic than putting holes in paper or busting dirt clods--but what a dream to shoot. It would be many years before I realized just what a great rifle I had purchased that fateful day. Because 7.65 Argentine ammo was generally unavailable at the time, I was forced to begin reloading centerfire rifle ammo, which was a blessing in disguise. It made me understand how firearms work in much more detail than I would've bothered to learn under other circumstances. It wasn't long before I took simple reloading of Norma cases to another level. I purchased a form/trim die from RCBS and began converting.30-06 cases into 7.65x53mm brass--something that I continue to do to this day. As full-length Model 1909 Argentine Mausers go, this particular specimen is typical of those imported during the 1950s, complete with the Argentine crest ground off the top of the receiver ring.

Since then there have been many Argentines released with the crest intact. To me this has no particular meaning since I bought the rifle as a shooter, and it has exceeded all expectations in that department. On a good day with the open military sights I can put five shots into about a 11?4-inch cluster at 100 yards. There is no way I can suggest precisely how accurate this rifle is because I've never scoped it. However, for me this rifle is about much more than accuracy. It is an entire package.

Fit and finish of the metal parts are beyond mere imagination. Few custom rifles these days are better finished, both internally and externally. In fact, the 1909 Argentine action became one of the favorites of custom riflemakers for decades. This was because it was not only extremely strong but also dimensionally correct and consistent. Some of the finest custom rifles made have 1909 actions at their core. Open and shut: The Model 1909 Argentine feeds from a five-round box magazine.

Countless straight bolts were bent down to produce 'scope-friendly' sporters. Unlike other Mausers of the time, the bolt release continues over the top of the receiver bridge.

Yes, I was approached many times over the years by others who suggested that I do any number of things with the rifle to 'make it better.' The first was a common procedure in the late '50s, when small-town gunsmiths routinely reamed the chambers on Argentine Mausers for the.30-06. This procedure made no sense to me at the time, and it makes even less sense to me now. After all, the bore dimensions for the 7.65 round make it a true.31 caliber while the '06 is a true.30 caliber. Why would anyone want such a combination?

I've never seen such a conversion shoot very accurately. Anyway, why fix something that ain't broke? There were also those who suggested I use the action for the basis of a fancy custom rifle. But if I'd have wanted a custom rifle, I would have it built on an action that came from a surplus rifle with a bad barrel or from a new commercial action. The days of converting military-surplus bolt-actions into sporters is pretty much gone, though. Reasons are legion, including the fact that such a procedure no longer makes economic sense. Relatively few folks these days have access to the machine tools it takes to do a good conversion job, and the market itself has precluded the economic advantage of such conversions.

The 7.65mm Argentine cartridge predates any rifles Argentina ever had chambered for it. Technically, it is the 7.65x53mm Mauser cartridge (or 7.65x53mm Belgian Mauser) introduced in the Model 1889 Belgian Mauser rifle. Over the years, a number of other countries adopted the round for military purposes including Bolivia, Colombia, Ecuador, Peru and Turkey. Military rifles to shoot it were made primarily in Germany as export rifles, but a 'clone' factory was established in Argentina, and many of the Argentine Mausers were made locally. My rifle was made by Berlin's Deutsche Waffen und Munitionsfabriken (DWM), one of the better-known German Mauser manufacturers at the time. It has always fascinated me why the export rifles made for other countries were always so much better made than the rifles Germany made for itself. But that's another story.

Model 1909s generally came in two configurations: the full-length rifle and the carbine. I have owned both and prefer the full-length rifle, which weighs a nominal 9.25 pounds. It has a five-round magazine capacity and sports a 29-inch barrel with.301 bore and.311 groove diameters. The four-groove rifling has a right-hand twist rate of one turn in 9.8 inches. Although the military bullets were.313 of an inch in diameter, the Argentine Mausers shoot.311 and.312 bullets just fine. There were two primary military loadings for the cartridge.

One sent a 211-grain bullet out of the barrel at a nominal 2,132 fps while the later loading shot a 185-grain bullet at 2,467 fps. This is just shy of the modern.308 Winchester cartridge in performance, and it's easy (and safe) to duplicate.308 performance in the Model 1909. (However, it's not a good idea to shoot the faster loads in the earlier '91 Argentines.) Norma factory loads for the 7.65x53mm include a 150-grain bullet at 2,920 fps and a 180-grain bullet at 2,590 fps. The left side of the receiver shows that the author's particular Model 1909 Argentine Mauser was made by DWM. Sights on the 1909 Argentine are classic Mauser tangent propositions with an inverted-'V' front post and a 'V'-notched rear sight that is calibrated to a 'harassing fire' range of 2,000 meters, with a bottom setting for a 300-meter battle sight. This means that most unaltered rifles shoot roughly four inches high at 100 yards.

With judicious handloading, however, you can create loads that shoot right to the point of aim at 100 yards--handy for general use. Groovy Map Bangkok Day Excursions here. Model 1909 Argentines have been available on the surplus market off and on for nearly a half-century.

However, most now are odds and ends picked up here and there around the world. Most of the others are available on the regular used market, having been put up for individual sale. I have owned literally hundreds of surplus Mausers from countries around the world.

But somehow, none has quite the same place in my heart as my first Argentine Model 1909. It helped launch my lifelong commitment to the shooting sports. When I have this rifle in my hands, all is right with the world. In many ways it was the best gun deal I ever made.

Pre-1899 Firearms FAQ PO Box 2068 Ormond Beach, FL 32175 (386) 677-7314 Pre-1899 Firearms FAQ by James Rawles, Clearwater Trading Company Revised April 30, 2004 In response to numerous requests, here are the answers to the questions that I most commonly get on pre-1899 firearms. The second half of this FAQ posting lists serial number cut-offs for the 1899 threshold for many gun makers. Q: What constitutes 'antique' under U.S. A: Although your State and local laws may vary, any firearm with a receiver actually made before Jan. 1, 1899 is legally 'antique.' And not considered a 'firearm' under Federal law.

This refers to the actual date of manufacture of the receiver/frame, not just model year or patent date marked. (For example, only low serial number Winchester Model 1894 lever actions are actually antique.) No FFL is required to buy or sell antiques across state lines-- they are in the same legal category as a muzzle-loading replica. I regularly ship them right to people's doorstep via UPS, with no 'paper trail.' Think of it as the last bastion of gun ownership privacy.

Q: I saw a post that said that pre-1899s are considered modern “firearms” if they are chambered to fire ammunition that is available off-the-shelf. Is this correct? That is absolutely incorrect. ANY gun manufactured before Jan.

1, 1899 (other than a machinegun or other NFA category, such as a short-barreled gun) is NOT controlled in any way by Federal law. There is NO Federal requirement for sales of these guns to be handled by Federally licensed dealers.

They may be freely bought and sold across State lines by private parties, regardless of what cartridge they are chambered in. (However, State or local laws vary.) Q: Does sporterizing or re-chambering an antique end its exemption? A: Sporterizing, re-barreling, or re-chambering an antique gun does not effect its legal status. Thus, I can legally sell folks Mauser sporters that have been converted to modern cartridges (like.308 Winchester!), without having to go through the 'FFL to FFL' hassle. Q: Would an antique serial number range gun be worth more than an otherwise identical gun made just a few years later? A: Pre-1899 production guns now bring a 20 to 60% premium over identical condition guns made AFTER 1898. Based on market trends, I expect that premium to increase considerably in the next few years.

Many of my customers are commenting that they previously had no interest in 'antique' guns, but now want one or more because they are paranoid about additional gun laws. For the time being at least, pre-1899 are completely EXEMPT from all federal laws. Presumably, this would also mean that they would be exempt from registration if they ever have nationwide gun registration.

Think about the possibilities. Rainbow Six Keygen Music. Q: But what if I find a pre-1899 gun at a gun shop that was mistakenly logged into the dealer's 'bound book' of post-1899 firearms? Won’t I have to fill out a Form 4473 (yellow form)? All the dealer has to do is log the gun out as: 'Inadvertent entry.

Pre-1899 manufactured receiver. No FFL required.' (If the dealer gives you any grief and insists on the yellow form, a call to any ATF branch office will confirm this.) Q: Will the prices of pre-1899s continue to go up? A: Yes, and the rate of increase is likely to accelerate! 30, 1998 the permanent Brady rules went into effect.

On that date all post-1899 gun sales--long guns and handguns--came under the federal control of 'national instant background checks.' Subsequently there has been a much bigger interest in guns that are Federally exempt and that can be bought via relatively anonymous mail order! Q: Are pre-1899s included in the Brady II background check law? They are exempt. Q: How does the law on pre-1899 antiques and replicas actually read? A: From the Gun Control Act of 1968 (Which modified Title 18, U.S. Code): 18 USC 921 (a)(16).

(A) any firearm (including any firearm with a matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system) manufactured in or before 1898; or (B) any replica of any firearm described in subparagraph (A) if such replica -- (i) is not designed or redesigned for using rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition, or (ii) uses rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition which is no longer manufactured in the United States and which is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade. Q: What are the primary advantages in investing in pre-1899 guns rather than modern (post-1898) guns, or replicas? A: They are not considered 'firearms' under Federal law.

Thus they will most likely be exempt from any new Federal gun registration law. (Sadly, registration looks inevitable within a few years unless there is a massive swing of the pendulum back toward a constitutional republic.) I can literally send you a pre-1899 handgun or rifle right to your doorstep without a lick of paperwork. (Unless your live in for example New Jersey, New York City or D.C.) It is a great loophole. 31, 1898 cut-off date has been in existence, (unchanged), since 1968. Thus the pool of available pre-1899s continues to shrink with each passing year, and because of it they A.) Look more and more antique/obsolete to lawmakers--i.e.

Not worth bothering about. And B.) Grow more valuable with every passing year. Pre-1899 guns are already bring a considerable premium. People are willing to pay more for privacy.

So the bottom line is that with pre-1899s you are buying both privacy (the lack of a 'paper trail' and probable exemption from future registration) plus a great investment. Why buy a replica (such as the Trapdoor Springfield, Winchester, and Schofield top break revolver replicas currently on the market--and requiring the Federal 'Yellow' Form 4473), when you can buy the real thing (with far greater long term investment value, and NO paperwork) for just a little bit more money? Q: Do you have a list of 'cut-off' serial numbers for determining if my gun is an antique? A: The following is a listing that combines information that I have compiled over the years, plus some information that was kindly provided by Jim Supica, proprietor of The Old Town Station. (OldTownSta@aol.com), Dixie Gun Works, Dennis Kroh, and Ben Sansing.

Here is a partial list of pre-1899 'cut-off' serial numbers: Ballard rifles, all are pre-1899 Beesley (Frederick Beesley, England) shotguns - serial numbers below 1500 Boss & Co. Shotguns - serial numbers below 4200 Churchill (E.J. Churchill, Ltd., England) shotguns - serial numbers below 959 Colt 1878 & 1883 Shotguns, all are pre-1899 Colt-Berdan, Colt-Burgess, and Colt-Franklin, all are pre-1899 Colt Lightning Rifles, all large frame are pre-1899; Medium frame: serial numbers below 84,000; Small frame: serial numbers below 35,334 Colt Percussion Revolvers (and cartridge conversions), all are pre-1899 Colt Spur trigger revolvers, all are pre-1899 Colt 1st and 2nd Model Derringers, all are pre-1899 Colt Single Action Army (SAA) and Bisely revolvers with serial numbers under 182,000.

I consider SAAs with serials between 165,000 and 182,000 (1896 to 1898 production) the most desirable, since they have steel frames (and are thus safe to shoot modern smokeless loads), yet they are Federally exempt. Colt Model 1878 Double Action Frontier revolvers (serial numbers below 38,200) Colt M1889 Navy.38, all are pre-1899 Colt New Police.32 (serial numbers below 7,300) Colt New Pocket Model (ser. # below 11,900) Colt 'New Army' or 'New Navy'.38 and.41 (ser.

# below 115,000) Colt Model 1877 (Lightning and Thunderer).38 and.41 (ser. # below 111,500) Colt Model 1878 ('Frontier') D.A. # below 41,000) Colt New Service, first year of production (1898) only. # below 250) (I found one for my own collection. It only took ten years to track one down.) Dickson (John Dickson, Edinburgh, Scotland) shotguns - serial numbers below 5000 Forehand and Wadsworth.32 or.38 (all made before 1891.) Fox (A.H. Fox) shotguns - all are modern Francotte (Auguste Francotte & Co.) shotguns - Best grade: serial # below 16310 Medium grade: serial # below 29614 Bottom grade: serial # below 305769 Grant (Stephen Grant & Sons, London) shotguns - serial # below 7050 Greener sidelock shotguns (Best grade: serial # below 5311) Greener boxlock shotguns (serial # below 47130) Holland & Holland shotguns: Best grade: serial # below 22000, Paradox guns: serial # below 15400 Hopkins and Allen _Mfg_.

Changed its name to Hopkins and Allen _Arms_ in 1898. Ithaca Baker Model shotguns - all are pre-1899 Ithaca Crass Model shotguns (serial # below 38399) Ithaca Hammer shotguns - other - (serial # below 33011) Ithaca Hammerless shotguns - other - (serial # below 32988) Iver Johnson top break revolvers. Special thanks to Ben Sansing ( swsansing@juno.com ) for the following Iver Johnson information: There were three main models of Iver Johnson 'Safety' topbreak revolvers. 1st & 2nd Model revolvers were built for black powder cartridges only. Continued use of higher pressure smokeless in these revolvers will result in them shooting loose, getting out of time, and parts breakage.

[Editor’s note: So if you want to shoot smokeless in a pre-1899 IJ revolvers, you must handload cartridges to match the lower black powder pressure. Use extreme caution and err on the side of lower pressure when working up a load.] The 3rd Model was especially beefed-up, redesigned, and 'fortified' for use with smokeless powder and is fine for modern factory ammo. Alas, only 1st (all) & 2nd (some) Model revolvers fall into the legal Antique category. 1st Model (1894-1896): SINGLE-POST top latch; leaf springs; cylinder 'free-wheeling' when at rest 2nd Model (1897-1908): DOUBLE-POST top latch; leaf springs; cylinder 'free-wheeling' when at rest 3rd Model (1909-1941): DOUBLE-POST top latch; COIL springs; cylinder locked when at rest If you've determined, from the above characteristics, that you have a 2nd Model IJ revolver, here's how to determine whether it was made before 1899 (and thus a legal antique) or not. Fortunately, Iver Johnson built revolvers by the 'batch' system, and only changed & upgraded their guns once a year, so it is quite easy to determine whether an IJ is antique or not, just by cursory examination. In only *one* case (.32 small frame *hammer* model) does the serial number need to be checked. In other cases, you can 'tell at a glance' once you know what to look for.