Hopkins And Allen Arms Serial Numbers
158 pages, about 8 1/2' x 11' glossy soft-cover in full color. Reprinted with permission from Joe's estate. Printed on high quality 20# 97 bright acid free paper. Fully Illustrated with photocopied images. Has H&A, Merwin Hulbert, Davenport and Forehand Arms serial numbers and models. A really useful book for the collector.
Actually NONE! First ithas to be checked for safety The integrity of the barrel may be suspect in that this is a Blackpoweder and corrosive primer era gun If one cleaning after firing was skipped then the possibility of damage looms great. If you were to fire it then a BLACKPOWDER loaded ammo would be the one. This is not avaialbel in your common market place.You're not going to find it at a Big Box Mall Mart store and damned few Gun dealers.it is a specialty item However there are several catalog sources.Try these Make sure you explain EXACTLY what gun you have and what the chamber length is. FWIW, that will be 2 3/4' or shorter None of the 3' or 3 1/2' shells,,,regardless of what powder they are loaded with will be safe. LEAD shot only NO NON-TOXIC Loads Method of firing: You will need a care tire not mounted on the rim The larger and heavier the better. A piece of string at least 100' long The loaded gun is mounted thusly Place the butt stock BETWEEN the beads then lay the muzzle/forend OVER the sidewall of the tire and secure it there with several wraps of bungee cord.
Tie the string to the trigger, and stretch it out to its full length.It would be wise to be able to take full bodily cover at that point. The gun is now cocked everyone seeks shelter and finds it then the gun is fired. It is possible that your firearm will turn into a hand grenade at this point and shrapnel can have inflicted serouis damage to property.life and limb. How the gun performs next is key When you go to rerload it.does the action work smoothly? Do the fired shells extract without effort? Are the cases burst? Is there any visable damage to the gun?
And.This gun is pold and made of mild steels and even have Twist or Damascus barrels meaning it is unsafe with any ammo, Your best bet is to not even clean it and to select a buyer take the $$$$$ and run. If you would consider selling it Please contact me.and.Be safe and do it wisely only blackpowder shotshells!!!!!!!!!!! Paper.plastic or all brass You can get them from 'KEY' to blackpowder loads is they are rated in DRAMS or Dram equivalent loads(pressure) A 'hot' load is 4 drams of BP in a 12 ga.IMHO, that load would be to hot for your gun Think more along the lines of a 2-2 1/2 dram load and about 1 1/8 oz of lead shot. If you don't see this load in the Buffalo Arms catalog or on line ask in a e-mail they will load to your specs discuss the gun and the loads with them.take their advice as they have a lot of experience in this activity..
ASSRA member for about 8 years. Got an H&A a friend wants me to ID and possibly sell for him, but I am stumped. I’m looking for anyone really well-versed in Hopkins & Allens. Please don’t guess on this stuff; the local guys and I have been around the block a hundred times on it and we’ve got more guesses than you can imagine. The closest we’ve come to real facts is my copy of Frank de Haas’s book “Single Shot Rifles And Actions.” I believe this gun to be a very early H&A Junior falling block rifle (small action). It came as a.32 rf with a 22” round barrel.
The front site blade is missing from the fore-aft slot in the barrel. The barrel markings are (first line) MADE BY THE HOPKINS & ALLEN MANFG. NORWICH CONN. (second line) THE MERWIN HULBERT & CO. JUNIOR (although the die for the “O” in “CO.” in this line is broken and reads sooooo much like “CC.”). The barrel is retained by a take-down screw (with wire loop) from under the frame. Receiver has been reblued to a matte black.
It has been converted to centerfire. The bluing on the original barrel is thin and faded in spots, and it has been relined in the original bore (.32) but not chambered. My friend made a second barrel, approx. 1/3 octagon, 2/3 round in.25-25 (aka “The Golf Pencil”) to shoot (yes, he’s a little imbalanced, just like the rest of us Single-Shot loonies; and a word of warning – he never got the.25-25 to shoot). DeHaas states that these guns came with 24” or 26” barrels, so yes, it is possible 2” of the barrel were cut off and the slot cut; I can’t tell from the photos in the de Haas book how the front sight was mounted in the barrel. Can anyone with an original H&A to tell me? Most of the gun’s appearance and features match the photos in de Haas’s book except for some notable issues/questions: a) In the de Hass book, the first three photos in Chapter 32-Part 3 (page 207 & 8 in my edition) purport to show a “New Model Junior or Model 922 action”, “Model 922 rifle” or “New Model Junior action opened”.
The actions all have three screws, more or less in a line from rear to front of the side of the frame, some coming from the right, some from the left. Each of these photos shows an action with the center (extractor) and forward (finger-lever) screws much closer together than on my rifle. Then, on the next page (209), the see-through diagram and the (poor) photo of the disassembled action show the center and forward screw holes that match the separation on my action. Anyone have any insight into the variation? Is it possibly a diffrence between the.22 rimfire and.32 RF rifles/actions?
B) And this one really has me scratching my head. Again in the de Haas book, on page 208 is a chart that describes the diffference in the actions. It states that the small “M/922” action is 1.00” thick, and the “Medium action” is 1.20” thick. My gun has an action 1.20” thick (!). Yet compared to the photos, it is definitely not the medium action shown on page 211. (The front of my action, where the take-down screw comes up through the bottom, is much shorter on the Medium action).
Anyone have any info on this??? C) It has the number “135” on the front of the receiver and the original barrel shank, where de Haas said it would be. COULD THIS POSSIBLY BE THE REAL SERIAL NUMBER??? Any H&A experts out there? Thanks, Marcus. I just checked both of my 922's and both have 22' barrels and both are in 22lr. One uses the stud and loop like yours to retain the barrel and the other one has a cross bolt under the barrel.
One front sight is dovetailed and the other one had a silver blade in a slot cut into the barrel. As to the thickness of the action, I have found them all over the place. Incidently, 3925's were chambered in 25-20 SS from the factory, and last most H&A serial numbers I have encountered have been low. Nearly all of mine are 3 or 4 digits. Hope this helps, moodyholler. 96WA6, I'm not a Hopkins and Allen expert, but the late Charles Carder was.
He wrote a book on the rifles, and in it is a series of 922's, 1922's, 932's etc. The first one, serial number 5240, has the extractor and lever spaced (near as I can eyeball the drawing to the scale) about 1/2' apart. A later one, serial 23502, has the two screws no more than 1/4' apart. Then there is number 9204, which looks to have the spacing maybe a little less than 1/2' and number 1142, in.25-20 caliber, with the screws back to the 1/4' spacing. So it looks like the changeover to the short screw spacing was between 9204 and 23502.
It doesn't look like his frames lengthened to accomodate this difference, but Carder remarks that few parts from one H&A drop into other ones without hand fitting. Further, tangs are different lengths, some are radiused to the receiver back, others square, etc. All the frame widths he draws out for the small action are 0.990' to 1.020' thick. He doesn't appear to go into barrel lengths, but some of the ads he shows claim 20 and 22 inches for the Merwin and Hulbert Junior rifles (the early ones). The later 'New Model Junior' rifle had a 24 inch barrel.
Pinky And The Brain Theme Free Download. Carder used to write for the Single Shot Exchange. I don't know if somebody is still advertising his book, but his publisher is Avril Onze Publishing, 1309 Pamela Circle, Delphos OH 45833. Hdri Studio Pack Download. The ASSRA archives ought to have a copy to borrow, if they're out.
Regards, Bent.